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Появились ошибки P0087 ; P10D9. Машина сразу перешла на не полную мощность. Расшифровку знаю ,но причин множество. В воскресенье поеду к дилерам. Чем бензина в баке меньше,тем чаще ошибка вылазить начинает. Если ошибкок нет ,но бензина меньше 20 литров ,то начинается тряска. Как залью больше,то сразу перестаёт. Когда ошибка отсутствует, то набирает скорость по всем параметрам , как должно быть . Хотел бы узнать к чему готовиться. Может подскажете. Перевод ошибки: низкое давление в топливной рамке.
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Вероятно,перекачивающий насос плохо себя ведет…. либо эта система
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ИМХО, дело в ТНВД. Но это не точно…)
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Утром на холодную заводиться со второго раза и не много машина вибрирует.
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Можно ли проверить отдельно тнвд и перекачивающий насос?
На моём сканере при аварийном режиме максимум 150 psi т.е. 10 бар . После того как сотру ошибки на малом 750 psi 50 бар, а на оборотах 2000-2200 psi 160-170 бар. -
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Пробег какой? Стартер крутит дольше чем обычно после простоя? Скорей всего ТНВД
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Магистраль перекачки в баке прохудилась, частое явление, устраняется не сложно но очень противно.
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Двигатель 15000 тыс пробег, но тнвд старый 190 000 км . Сегодня наблюдал данные вовремя езды. Заводиться едешь без ошибки параметры идеальные ,потом резко падение давления и через секунды чек и падение мощности. На холодную сегодня с третьего раза завелась . Ещё заметил аварийную работу вентилятора. Можно проверить работу тнвд? Машина до рейсталинга. Не хочу методом исключения менять все подряд. И так 430 тыс отдал за полный ремонт двигателя.
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Конечно, можно! Просто нужен диагност, который не просто ошибки прочитает, а посмотрит значения давления, который выдаёт ТНВД, в том числе, и под нагрузкой.
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Завтра будут всё проверять. Я заметил что двигатель очень тихо работает. Такое ощущение, что форсунки очень слабо работают. Может это из-за того что тнвд не даёт положенного давления
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Содержание
- Возможные причины
- Возможные симптомы
- P10d9 Bmw Описание
Возможные причины
Возможные симптомы
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02-26-2019, 11:13 AM
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Private Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Dallas, TX, USA |
P10D9 Code Thrown I want to start off by saying first that I have already searched the forum and google, but this issue seems different than others because I�m only getting the one code (P10D9). I just picked this 2011 335ix up on 2/17/2019, and under hard acceleration, like almost redlining in 3rd gear, my engine light has come on and at the same time, my display reads �engine malfuction� and I loose power. This has happened twice, and when I turn the car off and back on, it resets and seems okay. There are no mods to this car that I am aware of. The exhaust seems to be louder than stock would be but it looks stock. I don�t see a jb4 or anything but it could be well hidden I guess. Any help or similar experience would be appreciated. |
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02-26-2019, 11:45 AM
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Drives: 2014 Alpine White 435i M-sport Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Orlando FL |
2011 335i, doesn’t that have the N54 motor? If so, you might be better off posting in that forum __________________ 435i M-Sport | Pure Stage 2 Turbo | MHD Tune | XHP Stage 3 | Wagner Comp Evo 2 | MPE | Evolution Racewerks CP/DP/TIC | M-LSD | XDI-35 | |
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02-26-2019, 11:48 AM
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Private Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Dallas, TX, USA |
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Originally Posted by Munchi435i 2011 335i, doesn’t that have the N54 motor? If so, you might be better off posting in that forum This has the N55 motor |
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02-26-2019, 12:42 PM
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Drives: 2014 Alpine White 435i M-sport Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Orlando FL |
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Originally Posted by Dohc120 This has the N55 motor Oh ok…. Was your car affected by the HPFP recall? __________________ 435i M-Sport | Pure Stage 2 Turbo | MHD Tune | XHP Stage 3 | Wagner Comp Evo 2 | MPE | Evolution Racewerks CP/DP/TIC | M-LSD | XDI-35 | |
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02-26-2019, 08:21 PM
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Lieutenant Drives: 2013 ActiveHybrid 3 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Raleigh, NC |
Fault Code Description General Conditions Voltage precondition Service Plan __________________ 2013 ActiveHybrid 3 (335ih) � N55 PWG � Meisterschaft GT catback � Wagner tuning catless DP and Stage 2 Evo Comp Intercooler � ER chargepipes � CTS intake � io2V3 O2 simulator � Pure Stage 2 turbo with high-flow inlet and DV upgrade � Fuel-It Stage 2 LPFP � JB4 ISO firmware � Fuel-It DIY PI Kit � bootmod3 � |
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02-26-2019, 08:30 PM
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Lieutenant Drives: 2013 ActiveHybrid 3 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Raleigh, NC |
__________________ 2013 ActiveHybrid 3 (335ih) � N55 PWG � Meisterschaft GT catback � Wagner tuning catless DP and Stage 2 Evo Comp Intercooler � ER chargepipes � CTS intake � io2V3 O2 simulator � Pure Stage 2 turbo with high-flow inlet and DV upgrade � Fuel-It Stage 2 LPFP � JB4 ISO firmware � Fuel-It DIY PI Kit � bootmod3 � |
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02-26-2019, 08:31 PM
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Lieutenant Drives: 2013 ActiveHybrid 3 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Raleigh, NC |
Page 9 has a picture of it’s location in the engine bay: http://www.burgertuning.com/instructions/n55_stage1.pdf __________________ 2013 ActiveHybrid 3 (335ih) � N55 PWG � Meisterschaft GT catback � Wagner tuning catless DP and Stage 2 Evo Comp Intercooler � ER chargepipes � CTS intake � io2V3 O2 simulator � Pure Stage 2 turbo with high-flow inlet and DV upgrade � Fuel-It Stage 2 LPFP � JB4 ISO firmware � Fuel-It DIY PI Kit � bootmod3 � |
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02-26-2019, 08:36 PM
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Lieutenant Drives: 2013 ActiveHybrid 3 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Raleigh, NC |
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Originally Posted by Munchi435i Oh ok…. Was your car affected by the HPFP recall? I don’t think it is, that was N54s. The late E90s came with N55s like his. However, it is subject to the blower motor wiring recall, so OP, get that checked out ASAP before your car burns down just sitting in your driveway doing nothing. https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2011/B…DR/4WD#recalls __________________ 2013 ActiveHybrid 3 (335ih) � N55 PWG � Meisterschaft GT catback � Wagner tuning catless DP and Stage 2 Evo Comp Intercooler � ER chargepipes � CTS intake � io2V3 O2 simulator � Pure Stage 2 turbo with high-flow inlet and DV upgrade � Fuel-It Stage 2 LPFP � JB4 ISO firmware � Fuel-It DIY PI Kit � bootmod3 � |
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02-26-2019, 08:58 PM
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Private Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Dallas, TX, USA |
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Originally Posted by Munchi435i Quote:
Originally Posted by Dohc120 This has the N55 motor Oh ok…. Was your car affected by the HPFP recall? My production date is 5/27/2010 (vin: A742710) Is there a place to see if I’m affected by the HPFP recall? Also, thanks for the info. I’m going to check the wiring and replace the sensor this weekend. My car is scheduled for the recalls. I think there are 7 total. __________________ @proper_tuner |
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02-26-2019, 09:25 PM
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Lieutenant Drives: 2013 ActiveHybrid 3 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Raleigh, NC |
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Originally Posted by Dohc120 My production date is 5/27/2010 (vin: A742710) Is there a place to see if I’m affected by the HPFP recall? Check that link I posted above. You can search again by VIN to be 100% certain. I’m 99.9% about the blower motor recall, and please please please make sure it’s addressed. Your car can literally go up in flames just sitting in your driveway or a parking lot (or with you in it driving). It has happened to multiple people. __________________ 2013 ActiveHybrid 3 (335ih) � N55 PWG � Meisterschaft GT catback � Wagner tuning catless DP and Stage 2 Evo Comp Intercooler � ER chargepipes � CTS intake � io2V3 O2 simulator � Pure Stage 2 turbo with high-flow inlet and DV upgrade � Fuel-It Stage 2 LPFP � JB4 ISO firmware � Fuel-It DIY PI Kit � bootmod3 � |
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02-26-2019, 10:21 PM
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Private Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Dallas, TX, USA |
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Originally Posted by afranke Quote:
Originally Posted by Dohc120 My production date is 5/27/2010 (vin: A742710) Is there a place to see if I’m affected by the HPFP recall? Check that link I posted above. You can search again by VIN to be 100% certain. I’m 99.9% about the blower motor recall, and please please please make sure it’s addressed. Your car can literally go up in flames just sitting in your driveway or a parking lot (or with you in it driving). It has happened to multiple people. I definitely will. I appreciate this info very much. __________________ @proper_tuner |
Степень важности ремонта : 3
Степень сложности ремонта : 3
- Неисправен датчик давления топливной рейки
- Обрыв или замыкание жгута проводов датчика давления топливной рейки
- Некачественное электрическое соединение цепи датчика давления топливной рейки.
Как исправить код p10d9 bmw?
Начните с проверки ‘Возможных причин’, перечисленных выше. Визуально осмотрите жгут проводов и разъемы. Проверьте наличие поврежденных компонентов и поищите сломанные, погнутые, вытолкнутые или корродированные контакты разъема
Сколько стоит диагностика кода p10d9 bmw?
Трудозатраты: 1,0
Стоимость диагностики кода P10D9 BMW составляет 1,0 час труда. Время диагностики и трудозатраты на авторемонт зависят от местоположения, марки и модели автомобиля и даже типа двигателя. Большинство авторемонтных мастерских берут от 75 до 150 долларов США в час
Каковы возможные симптомы кода p10d9 bmw?
- Горит лампа двигателя (или предупреждающая лампа Service Engine Soon).
Что означает код p10d9 bmw?
Модуль управления двигателем (ECM) контролирует сигнал датчика давления топливной рейки ‘A’.ECM устанавливает код OBDII, когда сигнал датчика давления топливной рейки ‘A’ замерзает
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06-03-2019, 03:34 PM
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Drives: 2012 bmw 335i Join Date: May 2018 Location: Aiken sc |
Help: Code P10D9 Very hard start. Well I thought my issues where solved seems like these cars are nothing but problems. I was looking around the hpfp and I noticed the round drum piece with the lip around it came off the hpfp. I put it back into the pump maybe that’s what’s causing this there was also alot of oil around it. (I plan to swap the fuel pressure sensor tomorrow) if anyone else has had something like this happen please help.
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06-04-2019, 05:26 PM
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Drives: 2012 bmw 335i Join Date: May 2018 Location: Aiken sc |
New sensor, still wont start |
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06-04-2019, 06:22 PM
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Drives: 2012 bmw 335i Join Date: May 2018 Location: Aiken sc |
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Originally Posted by Scantrell New sensor, still wont start hooked up to MHD these are my codes DME Shadow Codes |
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06-05-2019, 07:24 AM
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Drives: 335i l 328xi l X5M Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Hell’s Kitchen |
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Originally Posted by Scantrell hooked up to MHD these are my codes DME Shadow Codes From what im seeing this could be your fuel regulator. Reason why «Pressure is too low» upon start up. If youve already checked the HPFP/Sensor. its time to check under the seats my man. __________________
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06-10-2019, 06:42 PM
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Drives: 2012 bmw 335i Join Date: May 2018 Location: Aiken sc |
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Originally Posted by DiFFv1 From what im seeing this could be your fuel regulator. Reason why «Pressure is too low» upon start up. If youve already checked the HPFP/Sensor. its time to check under the seats my man. Well installed a new regulator and It did nothing same exact issue. New lpfp comes tomorrow and another high pressure sensor(maybe the first new one was faulty) if that doesn’t fix it I honestly don’t know what to do. Maybe put the orginal hpfp back on and see if that fixes it |
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06-11-2019, 04:14 AM
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Drives: 2012 bmw 335i Join Date: May 2018 Location: Aiken sc |
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Originally Posted by Mayorie +1 New regulator didn’t fix it. |
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06-11-2019, 05:28 AM
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Drives: 335i l 328xi l X5M Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Hell’s Kitchen |
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Originally Posted by Scantrell New regulator didn’t fix it. Then continue to tackle around the fuel system. Check your LPFP next. try to start with low cost before HPFP replacement, IMO it is definitely fuel related __________________
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06-11-2019, 06:57 AM
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Drives: 2012 bmw 335i Join Date: May 2018 Location: Aiken sc |
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Originally Posted by DiFFv1 Then continue to tackle around the fuel system. Check your LPFP next. try to start with low cost before HPFP replacement, IMO it is definitely fuel related I agree I think it is definitely fuel related. I have a feeling its something going on with the electrical side of things. When I swapped the new sensor from BMW on It I got a code(2BDA) that said I had a short to earth. I have another sensor coming today a long with a new lpfp. I’m hoping it’s not the hpfp I just bought it. It was used with only 30k miles. It worked for 2 days perfectly then these problems occurred and I’ve talked to the guy already and he said he wouldn’t refund me if it was the hpfp that failed after 2 days. |
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06-11-2019, 07:32 AM
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Drives: 335i l 328xi l X5M Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Hell’s Kitchen |
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Originally Posted by Scantrell I agree I think it is definitely fuel related. I have a feeling its something going on with the electrical side of things. When I swapped the new sensor from BMW on It I got a code(2BDA) that said I had a short to earth. I have another sensor coming today a long with a new lpfp. I’m hoping it’s not the hpfp I just bought it. It was used with only 30k miles. It worked for 2 days perfectly then these problems occurred and I’ve talked to the guy already and he said he wouldn’t refund me if it was the hpfp that failed after 2 days. » I’ve talked to the guy already and he said he wouldn’t refund me if it was the hpfp that failed after 2 days. » Sounds like he sold you some bullshet, That’s one reason why i don’t like buying used fueling parts. If paid with PayPal try to disputing the payment. Keep us updated, i hope replacing the hpfp isn’t the case but i would consider it after accessing all other fueling components. 2BDA — Rail pressure sensor, electrical: Short circuit to ground __________________
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06-11-2019, 07:45 AM
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Drives: 2012 bmw 335i Join Date: May 2018 Location: Aiken sc |
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Originally Posted by DiFFv1 » I’ve talked to the guy already and he said he wouldn’t refund me if it was the hpfp that failed after 2 days. » Sounds like he sold you some bullshet, That’s one reason why i don’t like buying used fueling parts. If paid with PayPal try to disputing the payment. Keep us updated, i hope replacing the hpfp isn’t the case but i would consider it after accessing all other fueling components. 2BDA — Rail pressure sensor, electrical: Short circuit to ground He told me he can’t warranty a used part that worked fine when he sold it. I think a hpfp with 30k miles should last more then 2 days(if that is what’s causing the issue) he then went on to say that I could have installed it wrong and maybe damaged it. I’ve been working on cars my whole life and I also had a certified mechanic working on it with me so I highly doubt its something I did wrong. A hpfp install is pretty straightforward I don’t see how it could be done wrong. |
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06-11-2019, 07:46 AM
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Drives: 2012 bmw 335i Join Date: May 2018 Location: Aiken sc |
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Originally Posted by DiFFv1 » I’ve talked to the guy already and he said he wouldn’t refund me if it was the hpfp that failed after 2 days. » Sounds like he sold you some bullshet, That’s one reason why i don’t like buying used fueling parts. If paid with PayPal try to disputing the payment. Keep us updated, i hope replacing the hpfp isn’t the case but i would consider it after accessing all other fueling components. 2BDA — Rail pressure sensor, electrical: Short circuit to ground Any idea’s on what would cause the 2BDA code? This was the only code I received when I swapped the new sensor from BMW in. Still had same issues just a different code. |
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06-11-2019, 08:03 AM
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Drives: 335i l 328xi l X5M Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Hell’s Kitchen |
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Originally Posted by Scantrell Any idea’s on what would cause the 2BDA code? This was the only code I received when I swapped the new sensor from BMW in. Still had same issues just a different code. Check Fuel Rail Sensor for dirt/damage, Follow wires down and see if there’s any heat damage or not a good ground connection. __________________
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06-11-2019, 10:45 AM
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Drives: 2011 335i xdrive Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Waterloo, ON Canada |
Post a log here of the mhd logging will all parameters available and just log attempting to start. Idl like to review that log. |
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06-11-2019, 11:43 AM
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Drives: 2012 bmw 335i Join Date: May 2018 Location: Aiken sc |
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Originally Posted by Pladi Post a log here of the mhd logging will all parameters available and just log attempting to start. Idl like to review that log. I have to use jb4 to log but sure I should be able to get a log when I get home from work. |
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06-11-2019, 06:33 PM
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Drives: 2012 bmw 335i Join Date: May 2018 Location: Aiken sc |
New lpfp still same problems. The jb4 log isn’t showing anything for the high pressure side. Maybe I’m doing something wrong I dont know but I’ll post the log |
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06-11-2019, 06:43 PM
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Drives: 2012 bmw 335i Join Date: May 2018 Location: Aiken sc |
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06-12-2019, 08:01 PM
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Drives: 2012 bmw 335i Join Date: May 2018 Location: Aiken sc |
It was the used hpfp that went bad.(the user checkered sold it to me) I put my old one back on and car runs. I had it on my car for 2 days and the guy refused to give me a refund. Hpfp with aparently only 30k miles fails after installed for 2 days. This guys full of shi |
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06-13-2019, 05:56 AM
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Drives: 335i l 328xi l X5M Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Hell’s Kitchen |
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Originally Posted by Scantrell It was the used hpfp that went bad.(the user checkered sold it to me) I put my old one back on and car runs. I had it on my car for 2 days and the guy refused to give me a refund. Hpfp with aparently only 30k miles fails after installed for 2 days. This guys full of shi Told ya… Now dispute and get your money back. __________________
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06-13-2019, 09:26 AM
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Drives: 2011 335i xdrive Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Waterloo, ON Canada |
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Originally Posted by Scantrell It was the used hpfp that went bad.(the user checkered sold it to me) I put my old one back on and car runs. I had it on my car for 2 days and the guy refused to give me a refund. Hpfp with aparently only 30k miles fails after installed for 2 days. This guys full of shi You bought a used pump ? ! lol comone man |
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06-13-2019, 09:29 AM
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Drives: 2012 bmw 335i Join Date: May 2018 Location: Aiken sc |
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Originally Posted by Pladi You bought a used pump ? ! lol comone man I mean 30k miles and he said it was replaced under the recall so I was updated? sounds pretty good to me. I usually have trust for people on this forum so I figure it’d be good. I was definitely wrong. |
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06-17-2019, 09:55 AM
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Drives: 2012 bmw 335i Join Date: May 2018 Location: Aiken sc |
PayPal is forcing him to refund me after I return it. I’d recommend not doing any buisness with the user checkered |
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06-20-2019, 12:10 PM
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Drives: 2011 e92 335i XDrive Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: New Hampshire |
30k is like half the life of the pump… not sure if FCP still has them but buy one from them with the lifetime warranty.
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