P3120 ошибка приус

Всем приусчанам привет из Казахстана !!!!!!!!!!
Очень нуждаюсь в вашей помощи, так как у нас нет сервисов по гибридам.
Купил приуса 11-го 2001 года ,не работала помпа гибридной системы охлаждения + были ошибки на панели приборов как : треугольник, чек ну и машинка с восклицательным знаком , родную не нашел, установил от Газели, всё равно ошибки остались. Решил проверить сканером ( сканер Лаунч) показала ошибку Р3000 , это оказался ремонт ВВБ, отремонтировали в Питере ( отправлял ВВБ транспортной компанией). Установил ВВБ, машину не узнал)))), скорость начала набирать быстро, на ВВБ стала дольше работать, на зад стала без проблем ехать, но к сожалению ошибки не ушли(((. Опять проверил сканером, вышла ошибка Р3120 ( под код Лаунч не показал), искал в наших краях диагностику которая нашла бы под код, но не нашел, вычитал с инета что можно проверить кабелем mini vci с помощью программки Techstream. В общем купил кабель, установил программку, показала под код 259. ( фото прилагаю)

Забыл добавить , после установки отремонтированной ВВБ, ошибка Р3120 стиралась, после месяца езды перестала стираться.

На данный момент у машины следующие симптомы:
Едешь на машине и в любой момент она может потерять мощность и не ехать, давлю на акселератор он не слушается, в стою на обочину выключаю зажигание, потом обратно включаю машина начинает ехать, а частенько после этого не запускается и приходится клему АКБ снимать и обратно ставить, потом запускается, бывает выезжаю с перекрёстка давлю на акселератор сильно, машина начинает ехать и теряет мощность.

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Well, I wish I would have spent more time reading this forum, before I abused my beloved NWH11. I bought her a little over a year ago when it had ~89k miles on it. Since it’s mostly a commute vehicle, I’ve managed to get the mileage up to about 163k. It looks like I made the mistaken of taking a vacation from the bay area to Nevada with the car overly weighted (3 bikes on the back + tons of gear in the trunk). I was in a hurry and pushed it a little hard going over donners pass, and suddenly I noticed I didn’t have nearly as much power, and the battery was showing as only being about 1/3 full on the display. I stopped at the next rest stop and let the ICE recharge the battery, thinking that MG2 wasn’t running due to low battery. I was very careful after that and drove quite slowly. I made it home, but not without worrying the whole time, and thinking «somthing» didn’t feel right… No triangles of death, no indication other than it «felt different» and I didn’t seem to have as much power. By the time I made it home, it felt mostly ok.

About 2 months later (just the other day), I was again abusing my poor car, driving about 75 mph, trying to beat rush hour, and up comes the exclamation point, and check engine light, and I quickly loose power in the middle of a 6 lane interchange on the 101 (great fun). I was able to get off an exit by luck and made it to a parking it. The gas was showing I only had one bar left, but it wasn’t blinking, and I know I have atleast 50+ miles once it starts blinking so I didn’t think I was out of gas, as has happened in the past when I’ve seen the exclamation (I’ve always refilled within minutes)… So I again turned on the engine thinking maybe the ICE would charge the battery and I could make it to a gas station, or god would get me out of it or something; so I limped to a gas station, filled up, and it seemed to work a little bit better.

I let it sit for another half hour or so and lo and behold no more Christmas lights. Not only that, it was acting quite normal. I’ve been driving it in fear ever since…. I knew about the possible transaxle problem when I bought the car (I did some research), but I wish I would have read the whole part about «hills and heat and excessive speed», but it is what it is now…

I took it to the local prius guy, and he said the computer told him the following:

Engine codes:
P0440 EVAP
p3190 ENGINE POWER

HV ECU:
P3120 HV Transaxle Assembly Malfunction
1 Info Code 239 (I’ve googled this has somthing to do with the crank shaft?)
2 Info Code 204

ABS
C1259 HW SYSTEM REGENERATIVE FAULT

Guess the good news is the battery works fine. The guy said the trans-axle is toast, and needs replacement asap. AFAIK he didn’t check the trans-axle fluid as he said he would, but simply declared the trans axle dead. I said, «Would changing the fluid put a band aid on it?) he said, «No, I’m currently only running on the ICE».

Well, I don’t believe that is true because I am still getting a solid 45 MPG (even after resetting my computer and driving for several miles)… The computer also shows that MG2 is sending power to the wheels and getting power from the wheels…

I’ve seen people replacing the stators, and I have a non-prius mechanic I think can do it ok, but I’m wondering if it’s really necessary… I’ve not been able to find anything about the 204 info code….

Any help would be appreciated, and please keep the finger pointing to a minimum, I already feel bad enough for abusing this poor little Prius No. 332

Also, I should note: My main rear seal is also leaking oil and needs to be replaced… Is it possible this has somthing to do with the transaxle/crankshaft problem?


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    This code points to the System main relay. Could this come from the service plug not being all the way locked? I haven’t checked so I don’t know if this is the case.
    If the relay needs to be changed per the service manual is this a DIY job?
    Any other suggestions of what to look at?
    Thanks


  2. ChapmanF

    3120 / 235 refers to a large loss of strength of the permanent magnets in the rotor of MG2.

    If it means what it says, replacement of the transaxle is indicated.

    However, before going there for sure, there are two things to rule out. First, if there are any DTCs from the battery ECU, those should be attended to first. Second, based on a repeat test with ignition ON, the manual may suggest replacing the SMR first. It doesn’t explain (at least not in my 2001 edition) exactly how an SMR problem might contribute to an MG2 magnetism code, but those are the steps.

    I’d recommend looking up the 2003 manual, which might have made the troubleshooting procedure clearer. I’m almost wondering if there could be a typo in mine, somewhere in the part of the flowchart around the SMR.

    -Chap


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    The one with the code is a 2002 and I have the manuals. There are no other codes so it says to replace the system main relay. Yesterday I cleared the codes and they didn’t come up when I started the car or even after I drove it around the block.


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    I suppose the unexplained interaction could be something like, an intermittent poor contact condition in the SMR could lead to less current flowing to/from MG2 than expected, triggering a code for a decrease in rotor magnetism, except a real decrease in rotor magnetism would be permanent and always showing up.

    May as well follow the steps, change the SMR and see what happens. Had the code been coming up often?

    It can be a DIY job for roughly the same DIYers who would consider HV battery rebuilding a DIY job (only less work). Class 0 or 00 gloves, inch-pound torque wrench, insulated tools, meticulous work habits….

    -Chap


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    Thanks for the help!
    This is the first time the cade came up. My daughter parked in a friends driveway, turned it off, and when she came back out the lights came on. Maybe going into the driveway to fast, hitting the bump too hard could have jogged something loose?


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    If it doesn’t recur at least once, I might be inclined to solve it by doing nothing….

    -Chap


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    I just went to get it and drove it 8.5 miles home with no issues. We even stopped to fill it up and nothing happened. Parked it outside and washed it, went to pull it in and got the lights again and same codes. Weird.


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    I’m not sure if these things can just work themselves out, but after driving it to and from work today all is clear.

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ошибка P 3120-245

Приветствую всех!подскажите про ошибку P3120-245 ?что это и где искать?

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3120 насколько я понял траблы с коробкой, подробнее гуру напишут из расшифровок

Отправлено спустя 9 минут 27 секунд:
Копировал с автодаты
P3120 — HV Transaxle Malfunction
234 Energy Balance Malfunction. Small reduction of motor magnetism
235 Energy Balance Malfunction. Large reduction of motor magnetism
236 Energy Balance Malfunction. Small reduction of generator magnetism
237 Energy Balance Malfunction. Large reduction of generator magnetism
239 HV Transaxle Malfunction. Shaft damaged
240 HV Transaxle Malfunction. Generator locked
241 HV Transaxle Malfunction. Torque limiter sliding
242 HV Transaxle Malfunction. Planetary gear locked
243 Motor Resolver Malfunction. Motor resolver inter-phase short
244 Motor Resolver Malfunction. Motor resolver inter-phase short (When there is a history that the state of malfunction continued during inverter fail safe mode)
245 Motor Resolver Malfunction. Open or short in motor resolver circuit
246 Motor Resolver Malfunction. Open or short in motor resolver circuit (When there is a history that the state of malfunction continued during inverter fail safe mode)
247 Motor Temperature Sensor Malfunction. GND short in motor temperature sensor
248 Motor Temperature Sensor Malfunction. Motor temperature sensor malfunction
249 Motor Temperature Sensor Malfunction. Open or +B short in motor temperature sensor
250 Motor Temperature Sensor Malfunction. Motor temperature sensor performance problem
253 Generator Resolver Malfunction. Generator resolver inter-phase short
254 Generator Resolver Malfunction. Generator resolver inter-phase short (When there is a history that the state of malfunction continued during inverter fail safe mode)
255 Generator Resolver Malfunction. Open or short in generator resolver circuit
256 Generator Resolver Malfunction. Open or short in generator resolver circuit (When there is a history that the state of malfunction continued during inverter fail safe mode)
257 Generator Temperature Sensor Malfunction. GND short in generator temperature sensor
258 Generator Temperature Sensor Malfunction. Generator temperature sensor malfunction
259 Generator Temperature Sensor Malfunction. Open or +B short in generator temperature sensor
260 Generator Temperature Sensor Malfunction. Generator temperature sensor performance problem

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надо искать сканер, который видит подкод. в общем случае 3120 означает проблему с коробкой, а подкод (информационный код) 243, 245 и т.д. более детально говорит о неисправной подсистеме внутри. СКОПИРОВАННО…—http://www.estima.su/2008/10/service-an … rid-ahr10/ Удачи.

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atak: надо искать сканер, который видит подкод. в общем случае 3120 означает проблему с коробкой, а подкод (информационный код) 243, 245 и т.д. более детально говорит о неисправной подсистеме внутри. СКОПИРОВАННО…—http://www.estima.su/2008/10/service-an … rid-ahr10/ Удачи.

245 подкод написано же

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спасибо но это расшифровка подкодов с приуса :( а с эстимы говорят другие маленько! и еще вопрос кто нибуть заказывал диск с сайта эстима .су?

Отправлено спустя 2 минуты 26 секунд:
у меня ошибка P3120 — HV Transaxle Asse а не Transaxle Malfunction

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Вот такое пишут.

ошибка P 3120-245 - IMG_20160918_113708.jpg
ошибка P 3120-245 - IMG_20160918_113721.jpg
ошибка P 3120-245 - IMG_20160918_113732.jpg
ошибка P 3120-245 - IMG_20160918_113741.jpg

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спасибо все прозвонил,все как в книжке но проблема осталась!что такое резольвер и как он выглядит на ней?может кто делал?как то коробку не хотелось бы менять.

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(This blog is one in a series on Gen 1 Prius common failures.  Read the introductory blog here.)

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Owners of the Gen 1 Prius (model years 2001, 2002, and 2003) are part of a group affectionately called “early adopters” and with that membership comes the imageburden of techno-drama (exclamation points, noises, et al.).  In that vein Luscious Garage could be equally named “Early Adopter Therapists”.  If it’s happening, we’re quite likely to witness it within our walls and to have the resources to help.

Such is the case of Gen 1 Prius transmission failures, which by now (some eight years after the model’s release) are nearly commonplace. (Pic is of the first bad trans we encountered—windings shorted to case—now serving as a plant stand in our downstairs lounge.)

The “classic” Prius has several unique features, including an undersized traction motor (a.k.a. MG2, the motor-generator directly connected to the wheels) of 30kW, versus the current model’s 50kW.  It also uses outdated transmission fluid,image Toyota Type T-IV, which is more prone to stress versus Gen 2’s WS (“world standard”).  Ventures into the transaxle case have uncovered additional rumor about a manufacturing defect chronicled by Art’s Automotive in Berkeley.  (Pic of torn pickup tube seal, courtesy of Art’s website.) It also suffers from voltage deficiency, relying on the main pack voltage rather than a boost converter (as with the Gen 2), which Physics translates to higher amperage and therefore higher load on circuitry.

The upshot is unwelcome warning lights (master, check engine, and/or red temp symbols), noise, and/or shuddering.  Codes may coincide or follow: P3009 “High Voltage Leak Detected” and/or P3120 (information code 250) image“HV Transaxle Assembly Malfunction, Motor Temperature Sensor Performance Problem”. (Pic of fried MG2 windings, perhaps due to lubricant, perhaps due to design, courtesy Jack Rosebro.)

HV leaks can be isolated using rudimentary techniques in the service bay.  A test drive with the scan tool reveals overheating problems.  The most recent patient, with only 61k miles on the clock, read over 300 degrees Fahrenheit after a mile of highway driving.

The fix is simple but expensive: replace the transaxle.  “Isn’t this exorbitantly expensive and enormous component serviceable,” you ask?  Well, yes, but you’ll pay as much in labor suffering through the process.  Reference again the chronicles of Art’s Automotive “Rebuilding a Toyota Prius Transaxle”.

[Hooray, this is no longer true!  Click here for the updated blog!]

Prices

LG offers two options for repair:

1.) USED: Replace the original with a salvaged version that may have the same penchant for problems but perhaps lower miles and less service neglect (translation: fluid changes, or lack thereof).  The labor is $100 more to cover transferring MG1 harness from original unit. (Pic of used transaxle)  Because it is increasingly difficult (near impossible) to find low mileage units, we can only transfer the 6 month PARTS ONLY warranty from the supplier.  (Expect 1-3 days lead time)

imageSecond hand transmission: $1200
New trans fluid: $26
New HV coolant: $20
Drain Plug gaskets: $3
Tax: $118.66

Installation: $1100
Alignment: $85

Total: $2552.66

2.) NEW: Replace the original with brand new from Toyota, PN 30900-47020, that you hope will last as long as the original and perhaps longer with the proper fluid service intervals. We are now offering the transmission unit *at cost* to incentivize this option, as it is a much better investment than a used unit. (Pic of new transaxle still in box; expect 1-3 days lead time)

imageNew transmission: $3000
New trans fluid: $26
New HV coolant: $20
Drain Plug gaskets: $3
Tax: $289.66

Installation: $1000
Alignment: $85

Total: $4423.66

3.) Once again, there is a far better alternative now!  Click here for the updated blog on transmission repair.

NOTE: Besides parts these prices also reflect a discounted labor rate of $100/hr.  We really want to help owners keep these cars on the road.

Is it worth it? The Gen 1, despite its flaws, is a feat of engineering and an overwhelming success of a vehicle, compared to all but the Gen 2 Prius (and perhaps its decendants: Camry, Highlander, and Lexus varieties).  But the “worth” of fixing ultimately depends on the attitude of the owner.

Hardly criticism, the story of Prius Transmission Failure is a cautionary tale of proper maintenance: change the transmission fluid every 30,000 miles, for all hybrids of this design (Toyotas, Fords, and Nissans).  It is the only service item in direct contact with the high voltage motor-generator(s) and the power-split device, to cool as well as lubricate these crucial components of the hybrid system.

For inquiries on transmission problems and repair, use the LG contact form.

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